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Easton
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« on: June 04, 2008, 05:28:42 AM »

Hello,

I suggest a Classified Function; in addition to the basic features of Classified Function, the following features should be added as well:

>Members be able to upload pics of Items to sell

Other Admins can make more suggestions here
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Easton
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« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2008, 06:31:45 PM »

Hello Adden,

Will Classified Function be in initial release of Skadate 7 as promised by Emil?

Awaiting your reponse on this!

Easton
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« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2008, 05:27:32 AM »

Hi Easton.

If there will be other demands we will do it.
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« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2008, 05:14:28 PM »

Hello Adden,

The ability for members to post goods/services(Classified Function) for sale is a useful feature.... It increases the Retention Level of the site. In other words, it makes members want to stay Online longer and Visit site regular.... In the same way members can post Events, members should be able to post goods/services for sale.
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« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2008, 06:06:55 PM »

i agree this would be a great add on
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« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2008, 04:57:21 PM »

I'm not strongly against this feature, since as long as I can switch it off I can't complain too much about it, but I'm not that keen for a few reasons:
  • I think there is a danger of the SkaDate software trying to do everything, and ending up not doing anything at all very well.  I am trying to build a dating site, and it is for that which I have chosen SkaDate.  Things like classifieds I don't think are of any interest at all for people who have come for dating.  I don't think it will help bring people to know each other, and I don't think it will help to keep people.  If people want classifieds, let them go to eBay or Craig's List.  I personally want Skalfa to concentrate on simply improving the core functionality of dating (which they are doing with many of the other changes, and I agree at the edges this gets a bit blurred what is actually related to dating and what is not).
  • Since Skalfa only have limited resources, I would like to see those resources put more into improving the existing functionality, or "bells and whistles" for the existing type of functions (e.g. the "who has looked at my profile" type of things (which they have now done), rather than going off on a totally different direction

I don't want to see SkaDate become a poor version of FaceBook+eBay+YouTube+...  I want to see it become the World's best software solution for online dating!

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« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2008, 05:12:36 PM »

I agree 100% with you on this brusselsshrek and is a stance I have already taken a number of times. Concentrate and focus on core and superior central functionality with the core product.   Cool
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« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2008, 06:46:09 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2008, 11:48:53 AM »

I absolutely agree ... please... Undecided ... stay in focus on dating communities ...
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« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2008, 03:56:27 PM »

Seems like you guys haven't done much research on this dating business/industry.... Just a short info, the trend nowadays are that members want Everything in one place like a Big Community with varied features and functions. That is why Dating sites are now looking to incorporate traditional social networking features into Dating sites.... Looking for example, a Adult Dating site www.smutvibes.com and look at the social features they have and this site is very very successful. So shake up guys, members are more sofisticated today and they are looking for more!!

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« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2008, 12:53:09 AM »

Hmmm again have to agree to disagree .... because it doesnt make any sense .... let me try explain my take on social networks and dating .... (dating in the true sense) ....

Social networking - an area for people normally with similar interests, demographics possible and more than likely similar age ... online interaction and communication ....

A Dating site .... a place where single people looking for partners go ... they maybe attracted to a certain niche ... let say they are all fans of Mr Eddie Izzard Esquire ... instantly because of the niche target audience they all have something in common and there is a greater chance of finding a compatible partner .. the job of a dating site ... get em in, hook em up - attend the wedding .. once people have hooked up (if they have chemistry) there is no need for them to remain on the dating site as they have found there perfect partner ....

I agree that there is a convergence of functionality BUT if you are a traditional dating site and you have long standing members surely then you are not actually fullfilling the role of a traditional dating site ... in fact a measure of your success would be the number of members you lose as you have helped them find a match and sole mate ... HuhHuh??

using dating software to so people can hook up for 'non dating/friendship' purposes it again another thing altogether ....

smutvibes is not a dating site it is a swingers/f*!ck buddie site lets not confuse the two here ... we do not operate dating site we run a swingers site -swingers dont date they errmmm - well you know what they do - lol ....

we choose the use skadate instead of something like ning becuase of a) support   b) ready to go templates   c) great admin functionality    d) focused on vertical marketing with a reasonable agressive revision and release schedule ....

Now if we where coming to the market place today - we would consider wackwall and would more than likely go for that ....

Now the people at Skalfa are reasonable on the ball and is they thought that S/N and Dating where truely one then wackwall would never have been developed ... dunno what do you think ....

anyway hosting a members based selling enviroment surely has massive implications in terms of yours ' the webmaster / owners' liabilty .... what if someone was using the selling tool on your site to covertly sell drugs or something vile like child porn.  You would be deemed partly responsible as you would be providing both the mechanics and environment to help facilitate these sales ....

As owners of sites we are liable for the activity that takes place on it ... allowing members to sell stuff opens up a real can of worms !!!!

Am i totally off base HuhHuh?  perhaps the uk market is years behind the rest of the world ... in any event we find it hard enough to push sales from our own sister sites - www.feelingsexylingerie.co.uk  via members ... if they can buy and sell there own stuff - why bother with ours and indeed why bother clicking on the all important affiliate banners !!!!

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Just a small voice in a big marketplace - Paul  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2008, 09:34:48 AM »

In consideration of your points lets be clear....
> A Classified Function is not a buy and sell feature, its basically a posting/advertise of a product for sale like a posting in a newspaper. There is no exchange of money and i am 100% sure that a Newspaper company won't be liable if an advertiser post a faulty product for sale and was purchased by a third party via other communicating means.

> I used smutvibes.com as an example, because that site have some features on it(like Group, Classified, Friends Network and so on) that most Admins won't consider putting because of the nature of the site. This is just to show you that members nowadays are looking for a little more even though every site has its own Theme/purpose.

> From a Tradition Perspective i agree with your points, but one has to consider the New Trends and so on. I have a question, what is Plentyoffish.com about Dating or Social Networking?

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« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2008, 10:02:39 AM »

Hello again ....

i) Classifed - paid purchase or not ... I personally would feel that I had a moral obligation to ensure that this was above board - and the point i made about illegal activites stands 100% - TRUST ME ON THAT ONE

ii) I think it depends on your membership base. if the site is free or subscription and mainly if you are dating or 'not' dating

iii) plentyoffish descripes itself as a dating site - but with a reported 3,500,000 i guess it can call and describe itself however it wants ... i would image however the original basis of that company is long gone as its revenue stream would appear to be sponsored advertising. I did however say that i felt that there was a convergence  of functionality and in between your little cloud  and my little cloud there is sure to be some common ground .....

I will put my stall out again - my preference would be for skadate to focus on core functionality all this peripheral stuff just detracts .... it would be nice to see a roadmap from skadate which we could all mull over ...

have a cool weekend ....

Paul  Cool
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« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2008, 11:01:21 AM »

Guess Classified Function should be Optional in Admin area since there is support for it from others

Have a good weekend!
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« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2008, 04:55:02 PM »

I think the problem is more fundamental than that; it is one of priorities.  Basically there are other functions which are much more dating related than Classifieds which SkaDate would be better spending their time on. 

I will give two examples:

I don't know how many developers there are in SkaDate, but I'm pretty sure it's in single figures.  If they are running out of things to implement and think that Classifieds is therefore something which they should do, maybe they should ask here first to see if there are anything else which we think would be more useful for dating websites.

In an ideal world, I'd support whatever feature anybody wants (as long as I can switch it off  Wink), but with the pretty limited resources which there actually are, I'd be pretty disappointed if SkaDate felt that this was a feature worth implementing.  Sorry Easton!
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